First off, congrats to Jazzhaus for beating the Eastsiders.  I was able to see most of the game and it was quite compelling.  Jazzhaus is a top tier squad that deserves high marks for this win.  While the Eastsiders may have not played their best game, I’m positive they would tell you they had their chances.  Jazzhaus did more to win.  This game was for first place and a top seed.  That leads to…

seedings.  Oh, this should be fun.  The KVKL Board gets to decide the seedings for the coming playoffs.  What does this mean?  All 28 teams will be broken into 4 brackets.  Each bracket will have a 1 thru 7 seed.  The 1 seed gets a bye during (and ONLY) the 1st round of games.  So in each respective bracket, there will be 3 games in the 1st round with the top seed awaiting round 2.  There will be 2 games (in that bracket) during round 2 and so on.  Make sense?  That’s the easy part to figure really.  The more difficult task will be to assign teams a number relating to a team’s accomplishments and figuring out what days we’re going to play (a previous post).  Division record, overall record, and (yikes) RPI will all figure into a team’s seed.  Rankings WILL NOT figure into seedings as they largely subjective. 

Jazzhaus is, for all intensive purposes, a 1 seed from the James Naismith Division.  They can finish no worse than 9-1.  Even if they lost this weekend, I assume they would have the same Division record as the Eastsiders but hold the head-to-head tie break (both teams would have a 5-1 record, but Jazzhaus defeated the Eastsiders).  Looking at the standings, only Jazzhaus and Jayhawk Guttering have 1 seeds locked up.  If JG lost, they still have the head-to-head tie breaks with Red Lyon, Free State and no worse than 7-3/5-1 record.  That’d be good enough for the John Brown Division.  Sun Creations and Screamers are playing for a 1 seed and maybe the top 2 seed (similar argument) in the Langston Hughes Division, so that’s easy.  The William S. Burroughs Division is a more peculiar issue.  Let’s say Rangelife beats Eldridge and the Sword wins.  That leaves Eldridge at 8-2/5-1 and the Sword at 9-1/5-1.  Strange.  My first inclination would be to give Eldridge the 1 and Sword the 2.  Eldridge did beat the Sword for the head-to-head tie break.  Looks funny considering the records.  Eldridge wins, no issue.  Just to go further into debt, if Rl does win (7-3/4-2) and Love Garden wins (6-4/4-2), there’s a similar issue (LG beat Rl).  There will be a few instances of this.  What to do?  We’ll have to figure much of this out on Wednesday at our meeting.  Thoughts, comments, suggestions?  Thanks guys, hope you had a great weekend!  Any heat illnesses/injuries to report?



3 Responses to “Seedings and such.”  

  1. 1 tofuscramble

    Certainly the seeding process will be more interesting for Love Garden than in previous years, and I’m wondering if this year poses more seeding challenges than previous years? Seems like there’s more parity and the addition of four more teams has spread out head-to-head match-ups. Regardless, the Board is going to have a heck of a time sorting it all out. I realize you were hypothetically speaking about the Burroughs Div–fishing for comments or looking to pick a fight, no doubt–but, within the same division, I don’t think head-to-head matchups should trump a team that has a better overall record. I think head-to-head matchups come more into play when comparing across divisions/conferences. Anyone else have thoughts on this?

  2. 2 cagey

    Here come my comments and/or a fight…

    I think the bracket is going to be awesome this year. There are only a handful of teams that have done it week-in and week-out through the season, but come tourney time a half dozen (maybe more) could get hot and string together enough victories to take home the title, whether by sheer force of will or some good fortune (or charitable calls).

    About some of the potential headaches in the Willie Burroughs division, I think head-to-heads would HAVE to come into consideration. Whether they should trump a team’s record, I don’t know. But especially when comparing division rivals, that tete-a-tete should figure prominently.

    I know some could say (probably correctly) that games early in the season don’t necessarily reflect a team’s late-season form, so if the head-to-head match-up was played, like, two months ago it might be a little distasteful to have to rely on it when drawing distinctions. But, hey, we happen to play a season that is 10 weeks long (at least) and each week’s outing should count when weighing out resumes.

    If, say, Eldridge and the Sword should happen to come out of this weekend with identical division records, I don’t see how the Eldridge could lose the top seed to the Sword. Not that SS isn’t a team deserving of a top seed (they are) but Eldridge earned it, in my book by beating them head-to-head. They might lose (in this hypothetical scenario) one more game overall, but if you are picking one of each seed (1,2,3,4…) from each division (Burroughs, Brown, et al), you gotta consider how they fared against one another. Especially if that is who you are also comparing them against…

    Is that how the seedings are to be done, Deron?

  3. 3 Hunt

    Im with you guys, its tough to decide but if Eldridge wins out they def. deserve the top seed over the Sword in WSB. As for the Head to Head vs Overall Record, hard to say which is better to base it off of but I’m staying out of it. We are cool with whatever seed we receive. Looks like it will be the most competitive tourney we’ve seen in recent years! I’m just ready to get it started.


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